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GameInformer Halo 4 Information Leaked
Here is some info I found via some other sites that I found interesting and thought you guys would like to read.

GameInformer Halo 4 Information leaked!

Note: This isn't 100% yet, these are just thefacts posted on Waypoint site.

Spartan Points

Spartan Points is the new currency system in Halo 4. They will buy things such as armor, armor abilities, Spartan Ops missions (see below), and some

Spartan Ops

This was probably my most favorite addition I saw. From how it was described, think fo Spartan Ops like Spec Ops from Modern Warfare but with a storyline. They will span out over several months, encouraging players to return to the game. Game Informer said that Spartan Ops will be comparable in scope and size to the in single-player storyline.

Why Reds Fight Blues

I think most of us probably guessed this, but reds fight blues and blues fight reds for training purposes. They fight in something called the UNSC Infinity. The UNSC Infinity is a 3km long ship sent into deep space on a mission. It contains a virtual reality sector that creates the multiplayer experience.

Sprint

So not only is sprint in the game, but it is a standard armor ability. You do not need to pick it up, it will always be available. You do not need to buy it with your Spartan Points, you will always have it equipped no matter what. So essentially, you can have two armor abilities.

Forerunner Vision

Ever wanted to be super man? Now you can! See through walls with your x-ray vision! I can't say I hate this armor ability, I haven't used it yet. I'm hoping it comes with its weaknesses and it discourages camping. Sorry guys, but camping in Halo 4 will not be a legitimate tactic.

Returning Armor Abilities

The hologram, jetpack, and active camo will make a return in Halo 4. It didn't elaborate on the abilities, but you can probably assume they'll be about the same.

Elites Not Returning to Multiplayer

Not much detail was given as to why elites will not see multiplayer combat, it was stated in a picture caption. The caption reads, "Competitive multiplayer focues on the Spartan IVs. Elites will not be playable.

Grenades

Now the article itself did not talk about grenades, but I noticed in the picture the Spartan had 4 grenade options. I assume the plasma grenade will return as seen from an explosion in the picture and the frag grenade will most definitely return as seen by the Halo 4 first look video.

Firefight

Once again, no explanation why aside from a picture caption. The caption read, "Halo 4's campaign is still playable with four players online (in reference to Sparan Ops, ensuring players that Spartan Ops will not replace the campaign coop experience). 343 Industries has no plans to include a dedicated Firefight mode. I'm torn on this, I don't normally play firefight, but I feel like it is a standard necessary feature in the game after Halo 3: ODST introduced it.

Regicide

Regicide is a variation of free for all. I think it's similar to VIP. Regicide, as stated by the article, "sets the leading scorer as the king. Every opponent that the king kills raises his bounty; other players have to kill the king to claim the reward."

Distraction and Revenge Medals

Don't feel bad anymore for not killing a single person in the game, you can get a medal for being a distraction! Oh, you just got killed and now you're raging at that player? Calm down and get rewarded for hunting down the guy that just killed you!

Let me make it clear that I do not necessarily see these medals as bad. They just may reward people that don't actually deserve one.

No More Weapon Camping

One the skills that separated veteran players from inexperienced players was the ability to time power weapons' spawns. In Halo 4, this will be near impossible. Weapons drop down in drop pods at random locations around the map. Quoted from the article, "This gives the matches other focal points, and it also helps alleviate the advantage longtime players always used to have over newer recruits; the best weapons are not always going to be found at the same spawn locations." Unless there is a distinguishable skill gap between players, I most definitely do not like this idea.

No More Respawn Delay

Immediately after you die, by tapping the X button you are sent back into the match. Now let's contemplate why this might be bad. Let's say Halo spawns are... not so great. A skilled player out BRs/DMRs/whatevers a unskilled player. Now that unskilled player can immediately respawn and find you before your shields even regenerate! I understand 343 is trying to speed up the game, but they must understand the consequences of instant spawns.

Joining In-Progress Games

So to solve the quitting problem, 343 implemented the ability to join games that are in-progress. My question is are we going to have the ability to search for games starting up instead? It infuriates me to join a game at the last possible second, not even offering me the chance to play.


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ahh you beat me to it

i really do not know what to say about this after reading it, i really do not want to play a COD game.

the only thing i like is that sprint will always be there

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Re: GameInformer Halo 4 Information Leaked
The last three points you have brought up have put me into a sort of worried state. Maps without normal weapon spawns? Instant respawns? Join in progress? No, thank you.
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I'm excited for the new changes and can't wait to see how they will effect gameplay. As for all the people that are going to complain about how much it sucks for not being the same exact thing as Halo 3..


I can assure you they will have multiple gametypes.. One with the classic halo experience you all love with set spawn times, no armor abilities, etc.
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Time to rage!!!

If you want to read this, go right ahead. I'm going to Spoiler it though.
I don't usually go off like this, but this "Leaked Info" definitely deserves it.


Wow. this is blam! stupid as blam!.

I only have to say two things about this, it all / most / even some of it / even a few of these is true.
1.) And here I thought Reach was less of a Halo then all the rest.
2.) I thought I would never Reach the rank of Inheritor in Reach, until now.

343i said they wanted to make Halo their own kind of game and make it their own experience. Well guess what 343i? You just blam! the title up, big time.

If even some of this stupid blam! is really going to be in H4, then I will most likely not be playing. I'm sorry, but this is just stupid to me. But I will make an exception to it if they have a "Vanilla Halo" section/playlist.

- The possibility of dual AA's is terarded. Nuff said.
- Forerunner Vision? Get lost.
- No FF? That's groovy. (Meaning going backwards and is dumb as blam!. FF was a GREAT addition.)
- Distraction medal? In CoD I can understand because you have to have the Riot Shield. But if Halo has that, and you get the medal for someone just shooting at you, that's completely random and dumb as blam!.
- No "Weapon camping?" blam! off, taht is the worst way to say it. That's what separates Halo from the other games. The ability to take advantage and gain control.
- Join in Progress? Are you blam! serious? That's going to ruin Halo a blam! load. I know that people quit A LOT in Halo, but deal with it. Making join in progress ruins stats, stats per game, and the overall game. And hell, it will probably make more people quit if they lose, it happens all the time in CoD because no one gives a blam!. This will make it the same way.
- Halo has ALWAYS had the respawn time. And it's always been the same for every player.

I blam! hate everything about this "Leaked Information," true or not, this is blam! stupid.





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Darkened Night said:

The last three points you have brought up have put me into a sort of worried state. Maps without normal weapon spawns? Instant respawns? Join in progress? No, thank you.



I couldn't agree more here..  343I did a good job at making halo reach a little more competitive (why that wasn't their only intention) now it is just like they are trying to make it more casual player friendly..

instant respawns means when playing CTF you are gonna end up getting shot by the guy right behind you that you or your teammate just killed, i hope they imput a system that will make it so that this can be switched off, and the same with power weapons so that you can just have them spawn in 1 place.


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pure fire x2 said:

instant respawns means when playing CTF you are gonna end up getting shot by the guy right behind you that you or your teammate just killed



Call of Duty has respawns in place for CTF and other gametypes, which leads me to believe that respawns will be in place for certain modes.


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I dont like that Forerunner Vision...

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Local said:


Time to rage!!!

If you want to read this, go right ahead. I'm going to Spoiler it though.
I don't usually go off like this, but this "Leaked Info" definitely deserves it.


Wow. this is blam! stupid as blam!.

I only have to say two things about this, it all / most / even some of it / even a few of these is true.
1.) And here I thought Reach was less of a Halo then all the rest.
2.) I thought I would never Reach the rank of Inheritor in Reach, until now.

343i said they wanted to make Halo their own kind of game and make it their own experience. Well guess what 343i? You just blam! the title up, big time.

If even some of this stupid blam! is really going to be in H4, then I will most likely not be playing. I'm sorry, but this is just stupid to me. But I will make an exception to it if they have a "Vanilla Halo" section/playlist.

- The possibility of dual AA's is terarded. Nuff said.
- Forerunner Vision? Get lost.
- No FF? That's groovy. (Meaning going backwards and is dumb as blam!. FF was a GREAT addition.)
- Distraction medal? In CoD I can understand because you have to have the Riot Shield. But if Halo has that, and you get the medal for someone just shooting at you, that's completely random and dumb as blam!.
- No "Weapon camping?" blam! off, taht is the worst way to say it. That's what separates Halo from the other games. The ability to take advantage and gain control.
- Join in Progress? Are you blam! serious? That's going to ruin Halo a blam! load. I know that people quit A LOT in Halo, but deal with it. Making join in progress ruins stats, stats per game, and the overall game. And hell, it will probably make more people quit if they lose, it happens all the time in CoD because no one gives a blam!. This will make it the same way.
- Halo has ALWAYS had the respawn time. And it's always been the same for every player.

I blam! hate everything about this "Leaked Information," true or not, this is blam! stupid.



There has been alot of speculation saying that the info was fake. The OP whited out a section of the text that he already told us about,why white it out if we already know? Text images can also be easily altered in photoshop. The only thing that is legit for me is the screenshots. Nothing else.
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I think its funny that people are getting so mad over 343i experimenting with a game franchise. Yeah, they are conforming to current FPS trends. But there is nothing wrong with that at all. And like I said, there will probably be a classic game type anyways.
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Full GameInformer Article:


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Halo is not CoD. Anyone who even entertains this info as possibly good is a fan of CoD. Everything in this article stems from CoD. If 343i tries to make Halo 4 solely for profit they will lose their fanbase without a doubt. I agree with Local. If you camp in Halo you're bad and good people will destroy you when you're camping. Halo 2 was the best multiplayer game ever on a console, the sales didn't say it but the people who played it every day for 5+ years did. Real halo is being forgotten and shoved aside for petty crappy Cod-ish blam! that young children can be good at. blam! you 343!
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they iust ruined the game if anythng all good players will go back to reach cuz thats what i will do its not call of duty halo has its own skill set knowing when u have to get the weapons killing their team makin sure they sre all dead to pull the objective and seriously xray vision its gonna make it impossible for you to find cover to get ur sheilds back its like not having a map there what would be tje point after resding what i just read im disapointed but as a fan will still get the game just to make sure it is what it is and if these facts are true well reach ill be back for you cuz dear 343 you just ruined the best game ever
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If some of the information here is correct; if some of what I'm reading is final on the part of 343I's implementations to the much anticipated new title... then I will be honest and say I'm a shade or two disappointed.
Not so much on what is being added, but on what is apparently not being included.


Now, operative word in the above opener is "final".
This is called "leaked" information, right? I realize that well-established mags like Gameinformer are definitely among the best of their kind. In fact, it was for good reason that I subscribed to the mag for 2 years, and would've done so up till now but for the fact that money got tight, and I could use their website as an option for the great writing and analysis for which they are known; though nothing quite replaces the magazine.


But it's still a long way till the actual release of Halo 4. What Gameinformer or anyone else knows about the game at this point is well subject to change. "Leaked", they say?
Could it be that 343I turned on the faucet?
Not saying they'd thus test the waters, but that's possible, and there's nothing wrong with throwing a bit of pre-release info out there to see what the reaction is long before the project and product is actually out of its production stages.


About that shade of disappointment I mentioned above...


"Elites not returning to multiplayer". Hmmm... and why not?

To be sure, Master Chief has always been the hub around which the Halo wheels do turn. But the Elites are more than a spoke or two in those wheels, at least heretofore.

For me, the Elites were an enemy to respect, a force to be reckoned with. And they were at once fun to fight and quite challenging on high difficulty in the Campaign. They always made the Brutes seem like bungling boy scouts, with the exception of the Chieftains.

And the Arbiter became my favorite Halo character. period. I love Master Chief, but the Arbiter is the quintessential Sangheili. He represents all that is noble and honorable in his race, and is an exemplary warrior by any standard.

And surely the alliance formed between Johnson and the Arbiter and, in effect, between the UNSC and the Sangheili, will factor into the upcoming games? I see not how or even why the Elites would be phased out of the story. I will resist the temptation to elaborate how I believe the Elites could be written into the story at this point in a most dramatic fashion, as the best allies that MC and the UNSC has, or ever will have.


Well, I assume, based upon some images/pics I'm seeing that the Elites will be involved in Halo 4, and hopefully beyond.
Surely they will not be taken out of the story mode, the Campaign, not in Halo 4 or future releases? If so, I shall be very disappointed.

But if the images are any indication, the Elites are shaping up to look truly alien. They are monstrous, yes, but highly intelligent aliens, endowed with that other-worldly animalistic persona, as well as the other-worldly culture, ethic, technology, and their ancient, creedal convictions which makes them allies unto death unless betrayed, combined with overall prowess as warriors.


"343 Industries has no plans to include a dedicated Firefight mode."

If this is true, then I again hang my head in disappointment. In all honesty, the Campaign is what made me a fan of Halo to begin with, and the addition of Firefight in ODST gave me a reason to not pick up games like UC2 and UT3 for some great bot-enabled combat when I was otherwise playing alone. I fell in love with "The Mercenaries" in Resident Evil 4, and the similar yet unique modes in the Unreal games, Gears of War's Horde mode, and Firefight in Halo. Firefight was predated by these other developers, but Bungie managed to give it that halo-esque look and feel, so that it was hardly a copycat idea in the final analysis.


I'm not much on MP, so I won't venture into that area of discussion much. It seems to me, though, that inclusion of a "Forerunner" x-ray vision mode in MP would be a mistake. Camping is issue enough as is in MP, and I fear this would only encourage the practice.
I think, in fact, that a feature like that should be a very, very novel, and very infrequent capability only in the Campaign, in situations where the player cannot survive apart from its very strategic activation. Make that so the player cannot simply escape death merely by its activation, but is forced to use it strategically. One mistake and you waste it, and risk certain death.


On a final note....

Halo 4 is still a long way off. I think we should all refrain from jumping the critical gun here. If you go to 343I forums, please, in the interests of representing a mature and analytically capable (as opposed to the entirely selfish "I want this or that" and "Halo isn't Halo unless") approach to the "leaked" info... please, be nice to the devs.
Okay?
They want our criticisms. Our constructive and intelligent criticisms. They are professionals and they can handle that, and are actually there to make us happy about their game.
But they can do without verbal assaults and deliberately uncouth and anti-social antics in their forums.
Demonstrate that you are as good at analysing information and making solid suggestions as you are at playing a game with controller in hand.

I take what I see thus far with grains of salt, and will avoid premature assumptions and decisions. Ultimately, we shall see the game for what it shall be in due time. It will not be Halo 2 or 3. We must accept that all games change over time. Adjustments will need to be made.
But let's give 343I the benefit of the doubt, especially at this still early stage.

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I dont see how a loyal fanbae/ hardcore players can be around much longer. If this article is true while very premature it seems they are leaning towards a more casual experience where skill isnt going to payoff. No set wepons spawns really? i can see that being a huge problem as well as instant respawn. where ars already said they can respawn right away and kill you. your K/D isnt going to matter much i believe with  what im reading and this will be forsure the death of Halo at MLG. Looks like im going back to halo 3 its so sad to see how a great franchise is being ruined.
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